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		<title>Why doesn’t Ron Paul use the word ‘America’ much?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Iyer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A colleague of mine forwarded me this article in the New York Times, which compared the presidential candidates' usages of various terms.  Some words require more context, but what struck him (and me, after I saw it) in this graph is the fact that Ron Paul doesn't use the words America or American very much, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A colleague of mine forwarded me <a  href="http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/01/24/us/politics/0124-words.html?ref=politics">this article in the New York Times</a>, which compared the presidential candidates&#8217; usages of various terms.  Some words require more context, but what struck him (and me, after I saw it) in this graph is the fact that Ron Paul doesn&#8217;t use the words America or American very much, even as he talks a lot about war (usually in negative terms), the constitution, and liberty.</p>
<p>A simple possible convergent explanation comes from this graph of questions concerning how much how much a person identifies (e.g. feel&#8217;s close to, has things in common with, uses the word &#8220;we&#8221;) with people in their community, in their country, and around the world.  Ron Paul and libertarians like him, may think of themselves as individuals, moreseo than the typical liberal or conservative, and less as members of a community, a country, or the world.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/libertarian_patriotism.png" rel="lightbox[641]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-642" title="libertarian_patriotism" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/libertarian_patriotism.png" alt="" width="560" height="240" /></a></p>
<p>From a psychological perspective, this is a further illustration of the idea that <a  href="http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/haidt07/haidt07_index.html">moral reasoning is intimately inter-twined with social functioning</a> in that people tend to have a moral profile that correlates well with the types of social functioning they desire.</p>
<p>I would argue that a healthy society needs all types of social concerns.  Cohesive working units such as armies, companies, and to a lesser extent countries, are necessary for efficiently performing tasks and competing with/defending against other groups.  At the same time, <a  href="http://www.amazon.com/Expanding-Circle-Ethics-Evolution-Progress/dp/0691150699">it would seem callous</a> to be an extraordinarily efficient society that <a  href="http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2011/0307/Surprise!-Americans-want-to-slash-foreign-aid-to-10-times-its-current-size">doesn&#8217;t care about the plight of others who are not in our group</a>.  Finally, any society needs people who are less constrained by group concerns who can push society forward.  We should be thankful for the diverse ideological perspectives in our country and rather than seeing <a  href="http://www.presidentprofiles.com/Kennedy-Bush/Richard-M-Nixon-Politics-as-war.html#b">politics as war</a>, we could see it as an exercise in finding balance between worthy concerns.</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>
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		<title>The Experiential Economy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 03:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Iyer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently wrote/created (though the graphic design is not mine) the below infographic for Good Magazine in an issue dedicated to societal trends.  The idea here is that the material economy (which produces physical goods like cars and electronics) is being replaced by the experiential economy (which produces experiences like food and vacations).  The psychological [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently wrote/created (though the graphic design is not mine) the below infographic for <a  href="http://www.good.is">Good Magazine</a> in an issue dedicated to societal trends.  The idea here is that the material economy (which produces physical goods like cars and electronics) is being replaced by the experiential economy (which produces experiences like food and vacations).  The psychological data is based on a paper we recently had accepted by the Journal of Positive Psychology (<a  href="http://bss.sfsu.edu/rhowell/">along with Ryan Howell and Paulina Pchelin at San Francisco State University</a>) and my dissertation research, all of which focused on the longer term characteristics of people who tend to buy experiences (e.g. dinner at a restaurant) rather than material goods (e.g. clothing).</p>
<p>The take home message is that, <a  href="http://www.spring.org.uk/2009/02/how-to-choose-between-experiential-and.php">convergent with lab research using experimental manipulations</a>, people who report having a preference for experiential purchasing report being happier relative to people who report having a preference for material goods.</p>
<p><a  href="http://www.good.is/post/the-experiential-economy/"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-631" title="the_experiential_economy" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/the_experiential_economy.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="286" /></a></p>
<p>The reasons for this have been detailed by other researchers who report that <a  href="http://www.spring.org.uk/2009/02/how-to-choose-between-experiential-and.php">people adapt to experiences less quickly, meaning that good experiences last longer</a>.  As well, <a  href="http://cornellpsych.org/people/travis/materials/Carter-Gilovich-Relative%20Relativity-InPress.pdf">people who buy experiences are less apt to compare their purchases to others</a>, with the inevitable disappointment that exists when someone out there gets a better deal.  For example, I recently bought a Prius and still find myself visiting <a  href="http://priuschat.com/">priuschat.com</a> to see if I got the best deal, an exercise which has no utility whatsoever.  On the other hand, my recent hike  to Machu Picchu remains an unequivocally positive memory.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to thank the editor at Good Magazine for asking me to frame things in terms of the direction of the economy as that led me to this <a  href="http://www.forbes.com/2010/12/06/how-the-world-spends-its-money-entrepreneurs-finance-ask-an-expert-10.html">Forbes Magazine article</a>, which has data on how Americans spend their discretionary income.  Spending generally has gone down due to the recession, but from the perspective of experiential vs. material purchasing, it&#8217;s clear that experiential purchases (e.g. dining out) are becoming a greater percentage of discretionary spending compared to material purchases (e.g. jewelry).  Anecdotally, I&#8217;ve noticed <a  href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/18/nyregion/sidetour-a-means-to-enlightenment-and-adventure.html?_r=1&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;adxnnlx=1321902232-kRq9ADoYSMES8Qcl5QSlgg">startups </a>that seem to be trying to capitalize on the preference for experiences and <a  href="https://www295.americanexpress.com/cards/platinum/benefit.do?benefitTemplate=template_c&amp;benefitId=2">my credit card won&#8217;t just reward me with stuff, but with experiences</a>.</p>
<p>Perhaps <a  href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/11/opinion/sunday/friedman-the-next-first-and-only-100-days.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion">if economists want to consider ways to jump start the American economy</a>, they should consider the trend toward experiences, which are intrinsically difficult to outsource.  The world doesn&#8217;t need increasingly more stuff, but there is an experiential deficit out there.  Just think of all <a  href="http://www.pioneernetwork.net/">the elderly who lack humane care</a>, the homeless for whom personal attention is needed, or the way that <a  href="http://about.zappos.com/our-unique-culture/zappos-core-values/deliver-wow-through-service">Zappos has thrived by making customer service a positive experience</a>.  In economic terms, if experiences really do create more value for consumers, then the economy should necessarily shift in that direction and I&#8217;m hopeful that thinking of &#8220;the experiential economy&#8221; explicitly will be generative for business leaders, policy makers, economists, and perhaps most importantly, for consumers.</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>
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		<title>The Moral Foundations of ThinkProgress, Alternet, Daily Kos, &amp; the NY Times</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Iyer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the past couple years, Jon Haidt has had press articles from various liberal leaning press organizations, including these articles from ThinkProgress, Alternet, Daily Kos, and the New York Times.
One of the great things about doing internet research is that web servers automatically collect information that makes it very easy to do cross-sample validation.  This information can also be used [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the past couple years, Jon Haidt has had press articles from various liberal leaning press organizations, including these articles from <a target="_blank" href="http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2011/10/24/351013/moral-foundations-of-politics/" >ThinkProgress</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.alternet.org/story/138303/conservatives_live_in_a_different_moral_universe_--_and_here's_why_it_matters/?page=entire" >Alternet</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/09/24/603786/-Link-to-Video:-The-Moral-Differences-between-Liberals-Conservatives?via=tag" >Daily Kos</a>, and <a target="_blank" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/18/science/18mora.html?pagewanted=all" >the New York Times</a>.</p>
<p>One of the great things about doing internet research is that web servers automatically collect information that makes it very easy to do <a href="http://www.polipsych.com/2009/09/18/robustness-of-liberal-conservative-moral-foundations-questionnaire-differences/">cross-sample validation</a>.  This information can also be used to compare the people who visited us from these articles. Which group is the most liberal and how do they compare on their moral foundations scores?</p>
<p>First, I thought do a simple comparison of these groups.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/moral_foundations_thinkprogress_alternet_dailykos1.jpg" rel="lightbox[620]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-621" title="moral_foundations_thinkprogress_alternet_dailykos1" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/moral_foundations_thinkprogress_alternet_dailykos1.jpg" alt="" width="502" height="402" /></a><br />
There are fewer people from the Daily Kos to be able to be sure about conclusions (hence the larger error bars), but it looks like (unsurprisingly) all of these groups are liberal, compared to people who find us via search engines, who tend to be only slightly liberal.  Their moral foundations scores show a similarly more liberal pattern with higher Harm/Fairness scores and lower Ingroup/Authority/Purity scores.  Daily Kos readers are the most liberal followed by ThinkProgress &amp; Alternet and then NY Times readers and finally people who found yourmorals.org via a search engine.</p>
<p>To me, the most interesting results are where groups appear to be equally liberal (ThinkProgress &amp; Alternet), but have differences.  ThinkProgress visitors appear esepcially low on Purity scores, while Alternet visitors appear significantly higher on Harm/Fairness scores.</p>
<p>An even stronger test of the kinds people who use these websites is to control for how liberal (slight, moderate, or extreme) individuals at these sites report themselves to be and examine individuals within each group of liberals. Those results are below.</p>
<p>This is the graph for people who said they were &#8220;very liberal&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/moral_foundations_thinkprogress_alternet_dailykos_very_liberals11.jpg" rel="lightbox[620]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-622" title="moral_foundations_thinkprogress_alternet_dailykos_very_liberals11" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/moral_foundations_thinkprogress_alternet_dailykos_very_liberals11.jpg" alt="" width="564" height="452" /></a></p>
<p>These are the results for people who said they were &#8220;liberal&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/moral_foundations_thinkprogress_alternet_dailykos_regular_liberals111.jpg" rel="lightbox[620]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-623" title="moral_foundations_thinkprogress_alternet_dailykos_regular_liberals111" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/moral_foundations_thinkprogress_alternet_dailykos_regular_liberals111.jpg" alt="" width="564" height="452" /></a></p>
<p>These are the results for people who said they were &#8220;slightly liberal&#8221;.  Interestingly, there weren&#8217;t enough slight liberals in the Daily Kos sample to include them in this graph.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/moral_foundations_thinkprogress_alternet_dailykos_slight_liberals1.jpg" rel="lightbox[620]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-624" title="moral_foundations_thinkprogress_alternet_dailykos_slight_liberals1" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/moral_foundations_thinkprogress_alternet_dailykos_slight_liberals1.jpg" alt="" width="566" height="454" /></a></p>
<p>The pattern seems fairly robust in that ThinkProgress visitors care less about Purity.  Perhaps they are less religious?  Alternet visitors seem to care more about Harm/Fairness.  Perhaps they are more empathically motivated and ThinkProgress visitors are more rationally oriented.  I don’t know enough about the liberal blogosphere to theorize well about why these differences exist, but I’m hopeful that by sharing these differences, others will be able to enlighten me.  At the very least, I hope readers of these sites will find it interesting.</p>
<p>Would you be interested in seeing how your group compares to others on the moral foundations questionnaire?  Or visitors to your website?  You may have noticed a small &#8220;create a group&#8221; link on our explore page of yourmorals.org which lets you create a custom URL, whereby each visitor&#8217;s graphs will not only let them compare their individual scores to other liberals/conservatives, but also to members of their group, and to compare their group scores to the average liberal/conservative.  Once you create those URLs, you can put them into blog posts, articles, or emails targeting your group.  We are still beta testing the feature, but would welcome anyone who wants to try it out and who perhaps has feedback on how we can improve it.</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>
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		<title>Liberals vs. Conservatives:innocent until proven guilty?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 06:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Iyer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are uncertain if a criminal is innocent or guilty, is it better to err on the side of innocence or guilt?  Given that proof is continuous, not categorical, how much bias toward innocent until proven guilty should one have?  A friend of a friend recently asked is this question to a group of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are uncertain if a criminal is innocent or guilty, is it better to err on the side of innocence or guilt?  Given that proof is continuous, not categorical, how much bias toward innocent until proven guilty should one have?  A friend of a friend recently asked is this question to a group of psychologists:</p>
<blockquote><p>do you know if there is any evidence that conservatives would be more upset (defined loosely) by a guilty person getting away with a crime than by an innocent person being convicted of a crime? and would it be the opposite for liberals?</p>
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<p>None of us could come up with a ready answer of a published study to this effect (feel free to let me know of one and I&#8217;ll add it here), so I thought it would be useful to share a quick analysis of a few YourMorals.org questions that help answer this question.</p>
<p>The below question was asked on a 7 point scale, meaning that liberals (and libertarians) generally agree that it is better to let 10 people go free than to convict one innocent person, while conservatives are somewhat torn given a 10-1 scenario.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/criminal_go_free1.jpg" rel="lightbox[613]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-614" title="criminal_go_free1" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/criminal_go_free1.jpg" alt="Liberal vs Conservative &quot;wrongness&quot; of letting a criminal go free" width="503" height="403" /></a></p>
<p>Another way to ask this question is to ask how wrong it would feel for a criminal to go unpunished.  Again, we see a similar result where liberals and libertarians are less punishment oriented, while conservatives feel it would be more wrong.  This is perhaps <a  href="http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/rev/108/4/814/">a gut-level intuitive rationale</a> for the above graph.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/wrongness_criminal_unpunished1.jpg" rel="lightbox[613]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-615" title="wrongness_criminal_unpunished1" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/wrongness_criminal_unpunished1.jpg" alt="" width="503" height="403" /></a></p>
<p>Everyone agrees that we should punish the guilty (indeed, everyone is above the midpoint on the above scale) and free the innocent.  The issue is that we operate in an uncertain world and some kinds of errors bother some people more than other errors.</p>
<p>I believe a similar asymmetry drives the differences between Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street.  Most people will admit that there are lazy people who take advantage of government generosity (e.g. the prototypical welfare queen) and that there are poor people who work hard and encounter a disaster that is out of their control and deserve help (e.g. the guy who works 2 jobs that don&#8217;t provide health care, and gets a chronic disease).  The question is which case bothers you most.</p>
<p>Similarly, there are cases of wealthy people who clearly deserve their wealth and who create wealth for others (e.g. Steve Jobs) and there are cases of wealthy people who game the system and create negative wealth for others (e.g. the aggressive mortgage bankers of the sub-prime crisis).  Is it worse to unfairly tax Steve Jobs or unfairly let the bankers keep their windfall of ill-gotten rewards?  There is no right answer to this.  I would submit that in such uncertain circumstances, we all <a  href="http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/rev/108/4/814/">let our intuitions lead our moral thinking</a>, and hence we see the strong divisions we see in society.  Personally, I think it&#8217;s a good thing (that the conversation is had, though not that it gets so personal and uncivil), as society needs a healthy balance between punishing the guilty and protecting the innocent.</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>
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		<title>Equity trumps Equality in arguments about taxation</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Iyer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is more effective to advocate for progressive taxation using arguments about equity or deservingness rather than arguments about how unequal American society has become. 
I have written about this before, using different data, but with renewed attention being paid to rising inequality, leading liberals to continue to push for rising taxes for the rich, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It is more effective to advocate for progressive taxation using arguments about equity or deservingness rather than arguments about how unequal American society has become. </em></p>
<p><em></em>I have <a  href="http://www.polipsych.com/2010/02/20/democrats-and-republicans-agree-that-justice-fairness-are-about-equity-not-equality-or-impartiality/">written about this before</a>, using different data, but with <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2009/09/income-inequality-still-rising/27455/">renewed attention being paid to rising inequality</a>, leading <a  href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/opinion/20krugman.html">liberals to continue to push for rising taxes for the rich</a>, I feel like it bears repeating, this time with different data.    While most <a  href="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/25/poll-wealth-distribution-similar-sweden/">Americans might prefer a more equal distribution of wealth</a>, when positing such a distribution without considering who worked harder or contributed more, I doubt any study could show that any large group of people actually care about sharing some good equally more than adhering to the principle of deservingness.  People care more that people get what they deserve than if everything is shared equally.  Indeed if anybody knows of such a study, showing the oppositve, please share it with me.</p>
<p>Below is a graph of questions asking &#8220;how wrong&#8221; certain violations of fairness principles are.  For example, a violation of procedural justice concerns situations like a trial being decided with misleading information or a law being made without the input of affected parties (alpha = .77).  A violation of &#8220;lack of punishment&#8221; would concern a person going unpunished for a crime (alpha = .78).  A violation of equity/deservingness concerns a person contributing to society and not being rewarded or a bonus being awarded without considering the relative contributions of employees (alpha = .76).  A violation of equality concerns some employees being paid a lot while others are paid very little or a child inheriting a lot of money while another inherits nothing (alpha = .89).</p>
<p>To me, the interesting thing is not that liberals care more about equality than conservatives,or that liberals care less about punishing wrongdoers.  Both facts make sense but are almost self-evident if one pays attention to politics and current events.  Rather, the most interesting thing about this data (and any other data where I&#8217;ve pitted equality/deservingness against equality), is that everyone, including liberals, believes that equity/deservingness is a more important principle than equality.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/equity_equality_difference1.jpg" rel="lightbox[601]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-602" title="equity_equality_difference1" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/equity_equality_difference1.jpg" alt="Equity vs. Equality" width="503" height="403" /></a></p>
<p>There are certainly caveats to this data, in that it&#8217;s a limited sample and the conclusions are somewhat reliant on the questions I choose to ask.  However, this is but one of many datasets we have collected which tell the same story&#8230;that equity concerns trump equality concerns.  Moreover, I think this idea is quite &#8220;post-dictable&#8221; meaning that most people who really think about it, realize that they themselves, no matter how liberal they are, care more about equity/deservingness than they care about making things more equal.  <a  href="http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/08/why-dont-we-resent-steve-jobs-wealth-ctd.html">This article from the Atlantic blog</a> sums it up nicely:</p>
<blockquote><p>I think very few (completely misguided) people resent “wealth” per se.  I don’t remember anyone ever begrudging Bill Gates’ wealth, either.  When people resent wealth, more often than not the resentment is directed at <em>how<strong></strong></em> the wealth is accrued rather than at <em>who</em> <strong></strong>has accrued it.  In certain instances, the how and the who become one and the resentment oozes toward the individual.  I’m thinking of the Paris Hilton’s of the world in this instance.  Here’s somebody who has done nothing of substance whatsoever; her wealth was accrued by virtue of genetic lottery.  But those instances where people resent a particular person for their wealth are, I think, rather rare.</p>
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<p>So how can liberals argue for progressive taxation as a matter of equity rather than equality?  One problem for liberals is that research on <a  href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_justification">system justification</a> suggests that conservatives are more likely to believe that wealthy investors are more like Bill Gates than Paris Hilton.  I don&#8217;t have data on this (though I hope to collect it), but one example that worked for me recently is to frame progressive taxation policies in terms of rewarding work, as opposed to investment.  <a  href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0191886987902224">Conservatives value hard work</a> and I might even go as far as to say, anecdotally, that the conservatives I know work harder than the liberals I know (<a  href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/604747.The_Dignity_of_Working_Men">see this book</a> which is tangentially related).  Yet, we live in a country where someone who works hard for a living pays taxes at a higher rate (the income tax rate) compared to someone who happens to buy the right stock or the right real estate property at the right time, and sells it later for a gain (taxed at the capital gains rate).  Or someone who inherits millions, and lives off their investments, a la Paris Hilton.  Hard work is penalized relative to profiting by owning things.  Is that fair?</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>
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		<title>Libya as a moral war (except for libertarians)</title>
		<link>http://www.yourmorals.org/blog/2011/07/libya-as-a-moral-war-except-for-libertarians/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Iyer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many people believe that war and violence are inherently immoral, and some psychologists have begun to explore the idea that celebrating heroism is an antidote to the problem of evil. In contrast, other psychologists have highlighted the dark side of moral conviction (Skitka &#38; Mullen, 2002) and the notion of idealistic evil (Baumeister, 1997) to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people believe that <a  href="http://warisimmoral.com/">war and violence are inherently immoral</a>, and some psychologists have begun to explore the idea that <a  href="http://www.heroicimagination.org/">celebrating heroism is an antidote to the problem of evil</a>. In contrast, other psychologists have highlighted <a  href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1530-2415.2002.00024.x/abstract">the dark side of moral conviction (Skitka &amp; Mullen, 2002)</a> and <a  href="http://homepages.which.net/~radical.faith/reviews/baumeister1.htm">the notion of idealistic evil (Baumeister, 1997)</a> to explain how moral motivations might actually lead to increased violence.  I sometimes call this being hypermoral, not because I have any great further insight, but simply because I think it has a better chance of catching on as a pop culture meme.</p>
<p>President Obama started military action against Libya, following his belief in <a  href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/11/world/europe/11prexy.text.html?pagewanted=all">the concept of a “just war”</a>, suggesting that Libya might be a useful example of morally motivated violence.  This was somewhat informed by the fact that I personally support intervention in Libya on moral grounds, meaning that I see no gain for the US or myself, but rather would like to help those who are attempting to gain their freedom.  Unfortunately, that requires violence.  While I may see this as &#8216;good&#8217;, others likely see this as evil, and I do see the unfortunate parallel with violent actions anywhere, in that I could see <a  href="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=000643">a suicide bomber having a very similar thought process</a>, even as they kill many innocent people in an act that I would term evil.  The point of this research is to divorce normative judgments about which kinds of violence are good or evil from the more general psychological process, and simply to show that at least in this case, violence is often morally motivated, rather than being indicative of a person who is amoral.</p>
<p>As such, I conducted an experiment where participants were randomly assigned to answer questions about Libyan military intervention in terms of what is morally right or what is in the national interest.  For example, one question read &#8220;Considering what is (morally right/in the US national interest), I support the recent American intervention in Libya.&#8221;</p>
<p>Results are shown in the graph below, broken down by ideological group, and indicated that many individuals are indeed more supportive of intervention when framed in terms of what is morally right. Liberals (p&lt;.05) exhibited significantly greater support for Libyan intervention, framed in moral terms.  Conservatives exhibited a marginally significant effect (p=.06), though the magnitude of the difference is greater, so I likely just need to survey more conservative participants, who are a minority in this sample.  Consistent with <a href="http://www.polipsych.com/libertarians/">our research on libertarian morality</a>, whereby libertarians are not moved by the typical moral concerns of liberals and conservatives, libertarians were unaffected by moral framing.  Interestingly, moderates were also unmoved by moral framing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/libya_moral_war.jpg" rel="lightbox[585]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-586" title="Libya as a Moral War" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/libya_moral_war.jpg" alt="Libya as a Moral War" width="472" height="377" /></a></p>
<p>This is one specific case and one specific study on a very specific sample, so there are certainly limitations in the conclusions one can make, as with most any social science research.  However, this does suggest that for many people, the case of Libya is a concrete example of morally motivated violence.  I&#8217;m hopeful that thinking about violence and war as morally motivated, divorced from whether you think the ends are good or evil, will be a useful paradigm for reducing violence and conflict more generally.  Perhaps violence will actually be reduced if people become <em>less </em>moral and instead more tolerant of other people&#8217;s views and actions.</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>
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		<title>Relative vs. Absolute Good Choices for Liberals, Conservatives, and Libertarians</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 05:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Iyer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awhile ago, I read about a survey given to Harvard Medical school students about whether they would prefer to live in a world where they had a higher absolute amount of some beneficial good or a higher relative amount.  For example, participants had a choice of living in a world where they make $100,000 and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awhile ago, <a  href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167268198000894">I read about a survey given to Harvard Medical school students</a> about whether they would prefer to live in a world where they had a higher absolute amount of some beneficial good or a higher relative amount.  For example, participants had a choice of living in a world where they make $100,000 and everyone else makes $200,000 (absolutely better) or one where they make $50,000 and everyone else makes $25,000 (relatively better), explicitly assuming buying power remains the same.  The same types of choices were made for IQ, education, vacation time, attractiveness, and other goods, with the choice being between having more of something (absolute) or having more than other people (relative).  The survey results often generate <a  href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=411811">a lot of discussion</a>, in my experience, as people are intrigued by the idea that lots of people would give up money, just to be better than others.  In truth, other studies have shown that <a  href="http://www.rau.ro/intranet/Aer/2005/9502/95020147.pdf">almost everyone cares about relative concerns</a>, just perhaps in different circumstances.</p>
<p>I ran the same survey at yourmorals.org, and the results are similar to the original study, with some important differences (see graph below).  Importantly, the % of people who chose a world of relative income was smaller than in the original study, where 50% of participants chose relative position.  Perhaps people at Harvard are simply more competitive?  Mean scores are quite variable in different non-representative samples, so I wouldn&#8217;t put much stock in them, but perhaps more interesting is that the relationship between variables replicates.  Our results converge with the idea that <a  href="http://www.rau.ro/intranet/Aer/2005/9502/95020147.pdf">some goods are more positional than others</a>.  Specifically, the same things that people thought were more appropriate to think of in relative terms in the original study (praise and attractiveness) were thought to be relative in our sample, with vacation time being the least relative good.  The graph below shows questions in rough decreasing order of concern about relative position.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/absolute_vs_relative_goods_liberals_conservatives1.jpg" rel="lightbox[554]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-555" title="absolute_vs_relative_goods_liberals_conservatives1" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/absolute_vs_relative_goods_liberals_conservatives1.jpg" alt="relative vs. absolution goods in liberals, conservatives, and libertarians" width="505" height="405" /></a></p>
<p>Our data suggests that some people think of things as more relative than others.  Cronbach&#8217;s alpha for the items in the graph was .80, meaning that answers positively correlate and it is reasonable to think of answers to these diverse questions as all representing some general underlying preference for relative or absolute position.</p>
<p>Interestingly, it appears that conservatives care more about relative position compared to both liberals and libertarians.  Perhaps this converges with the idea that conservatives have a more competitive orientation, leading to positive beliefs about competitive markets and competitive sports, both of which are found in our data as well.</p>
<p>The current data is based on 5,795 participants (3,559 liberals, 632 conservatives, 569 libertarians, and 1,035 others) who took this survey.  This means that aside from political orientation, we could look at other factors that are associated with preference for relative or absolute goods.  For example, concern for positional goods is negatively correlated with Big 5-Agreeableness (r=-.13, p&lt;.001), Openness to Experience (r=-.09, p&lt;.001), and positively correlated with Neuroticism (r=.07, p&lt;.001).  These are very modest correlations made significant by the sample size that took both measures (3,844).  If other people have ideas for personality variables that may explain why some people prefer relative vs. absolute goods, please leave a comment with your ideas.</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>
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		<title>Personality profiles of readers vs. non-readers and saving your local bookstore.</title>
		<link>http://www.yourmorals.org/blog/2011/05/personality-profiles-of-readers-vs-non-readers-and-saving-your-local-bookstore/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 16:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Iyer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently attended the Los Angeles Times Book fair, which was held at USC this year.  For anyone who lives close to Los Angeles, I would highly recommend it, as over a 2 day period, I saw Andrew Breitbart, Larry Flynt, Father Greg Boyle, Steve Lopez, and countless other interesting people speak about books they [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently attended the <a  href="http://events.latimes.com/festivalofbooks/">Los Angeles Times Book fair</a>, which was held at USC this year.  For anyone who lives close to Los Angeles, I would highly recommend it, as over a 2 day period, I saw Andrew Breitbart, Larry Flynt, Father Greg Boyle, Steve Lopez, and countless other interesting people speak about books they had written.  I met and bought a book from <a  href="http://www.takeaseat.org/">a guy who biked from Alaska to Chile&#8230;on a tandem bike</a>!</p>
<p>One thing that always interests me is attending panels on the book industry, and there happened to be a panel that included representatives from three of the best independent bookstores in the country, <a  href="http://www.powells.com/">Powell&#8217;s Books</a>, <a  href="http://www.vromansbookstore.com/">Vroman&#8217;s Books</a> (that now owns <a  href="http://www.booksoup.com/">Book Soup</a> too), and <a  href="http://www.citylights.com/">City Lights</a>.  The panelists talked about the challenges of selling books in an age of Amazon and e-readers, with many of them echoing themes about how independent bookstores have become a &#8220;3rd place&#8221; where people can browse and discover books, which may or may not lead to a sale of a physical book.</p>
<p>One thing I study is <a  href="http://www.polipsych.com/2010/12/18/tony-hsieh-zappos-buying-experiences-materialism-delivering-happiness-review/">the tendency to make experiential vs. material purchases</a> and I therefore asked a question, which relates both to my research and my own experience in bookstores, which is that what I really value about physical bookstores is the experience of browsing the shelves, not the ability to buy physical books.  I normally walk out with a number of books, but I&#8217;m not necessarily there to buy something&#8230;rather, I&#8217;m there to experience the world of ideas.  Buying a book there just seems like the polite thing to do.  It occurred to me that other readers might be like me and appreciate the experience of browsing books more than owning any physical book.  Indeed, <a href="http://news.bookweb.org/news/new-survey-book-buying-behavior-provides-good-news-indies">this market research that I later found agrees</a>, in that they found that younger buyers appreciate the brick-and-mortars shopping experience of physical bookstores, even as there is significant leakage whereby they actually purchase books online.</p>
<p>Both because I was curious and because I&#8217;d like to help booksellers, I decided to look at our yourmorals data to see if I could say anything about the personality profile of readers vs. non-readers.  This is certainly a unique sample  - over educated and likely non-fiction readers as we get a lot of people who find our website via science articles &#8211; but while the mean levels of reading are meaningless, the relationships between variables in our sample often generalize (<a  href="http://www.yourmorals.org/blog/2010/11/sampling-limitations-and-what-you-can-deduce-from-yourmorals-data/">see this article</a>).  We actually have a question, &#8220;How many hours a week do you spend reading?&#8221;, that I used to characterize people as readers and non-readers and my first thought was that readers would be more experiential, as opposed to material purchasers.  However, in the 175 people who had taken our experiential vs. material purchasing measure, the correlation was insignificant (and negative), meaning that my hypothesis was likely wrong.  Readers are not experiential rather than material purchasers, at least in our data set.</p>
<p>I then thought I&#8217;d explore more and below is a graph of the Big 5 personality traits of readers vs. non-readers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/bigfive_readers991.jpg" rel="lightbox[543]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-546" title="bigfive_readers991" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/bigfive_readers991.jpg" alt="" width="505" height="405" /></a></p>
<p>The trend for openness to experience is clear and robust.  It replicates within political groups and within each gender.  The effect size is about a half of a standard deviation.  People who are &#8220;original&#8221;, &#8220;curious&#8221;, &#8220;deep thinkers&#8221; read more.  This is perhaps different than stimulation seeking (readers also do not score higher on valuing stimulation on the Schwartz values scale) or experiential purchasing, in that readers aren&#8217;t necessarily seeking novelty or thrills (otherwise they might experience the world more directly, rather than reading about it).  Here are some related differences between light (under 10 hours per week &#8211; in blue) and heavy (more than 20 hours per week reading &#8211; in green) readers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/readers_other_psychology_measures1.jpg" rel="lightbox[543]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-547" title="readers_other_psychology_measures1" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/readers_other_psychology_measures1.jpg" alt="" width="554" height="406" /></a></p>
<p>Heavy readers are more comfortable with uncertainty (low need for closure), enjoy deliberate cognitive thinking (high need for cognition), and tend to try to understand how the world works in a systematic way (higher systemetizer scores).</p>
<p>These are hardly earth shattering findings, but sometimes its useful to emphasize what you already know and doing this analysis perhaps crystallizes the question I proposed to the panel.  I asked if there was a way for those of us who enjoy the experience of bookstores to pay for the experience, perhaps through memberships, rather than the material goods, which are often more efficiently bought elsewhere.  However, readers are not necessarily more experiential purchasers, as I had originally thought and it isn&#8217;t just an experience that should be offered.  Rather heavy readers (at least in this sample) are people who enjoy engaging in the world of ideas.  Buying books is one way for readers to engage in effortful thinking and gain understanding of the world, but perhaps independent bookstores can think of other ways to charge people for better access to the world of ideas, leading to more congruence between what readers want and what only brick and mortar stores can provide.  The LA Times book fair, though free, is perhaps a good model, where people line up for access to intellectually stimulating panels with live discussions.  I am not in the book industry, but I&#8217;m hopeful that the idea that booksellers are selling ideas, rather than books, will be generative, in terms of thinking up ideas for supporting the livelihoods of independent booksellers.  Charging for panels, better access to authors, or providing a marketplace of ideas that are specific to a very local community are thoughts that come to mind, but I&#8217;m sure there are many other ways.  Personally, I&#8217;d happily give more money to my local bookstore, if they could somehow leverage their physical space in a way that would help me think of and discuss new interesting ideas in new interesting ways.</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>
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		<title>When Ingroup Love does not equal Outgroup Hate</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 18:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Iyer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently, Jon Haidt wrote a an opinion piece about the death of Bin Laden, which points out that people are expressing love for their ingroup, it does not necessarily translate to hate of other groups.  As I've said before, few things in psychology are categorically one thing or the other, and certainly there is a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, <a  href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/08/opinion/08haidt.html">Jon Haidt wrote a an opinion piece about the death of Bin Laden</a>, which points out that people are expressing love for their ingroup, it does not necessarily translate to hate of other groups.  As I&#8217;ve said before, <a  href="http://www.polipsych.com/2011/02/15/psychology-is-continuous-not-categorical/">few things in psychology are categorically one thing or the other</a>, and <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/US/osama-bin-ladens-death-anti-muslim-incidents-us/story?id=13540940">certainly there is a minority who will use the death of Bin Laden to express dislike of Islam</a>.  <a  href="http://www.polipsych.com/2010/06/30/psychological-causes-of-violence-in-sports-riots/">Testosterone, that accompanies winning</a>, can have that effect.  However, <a href="http://www.ehbonline.org/article/S1090-5138(09)00020-8/abstract">several research studies</a> have shown that <a  href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1559-1816.2005.tb02206.x/abstract">ingroup love and outgroup hate are indeed separable</a>, and that <a  href="http://ratiolab.huji.ac.il/gary/article13.pdf">if you give people a chance to separate the two, they are often feeling ingroup love, not outgroup hate</a>.</p>
<p>When does ingroup love lead to outgroup hate and when does it not?  The simple answer (<a  href="http://e1212012.co.uk/Documents/Prejudice.pdf">see this review article for more detail</a>), is that when people think of a situation in competitive zero-sum terms, they are likely to highly correlate.  Think of the difference between a rock concert and a baseball game.  If you are at a Prince concert, you don&#8217;t shout slogans about how much Madonna sucks.  There is no competitive frame.  But a &#8220;yankees suck&#8221; chant <a  href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KQI3WCegLE&amp;feature=related">can occur anywhere in Boston</a> or <a  href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm4W1Umjw48">inside the men&#8217;s room of Comerica Park</a>.</p>
<p>Politics is certainly a zero-sum game and for some liberals and conservatives, anything which is a congruent with either the politicians or beliefs of the other side is seen as bad.  So some conservatives have been reluctant to credit Obama and some liberals are reluctant to endorse patriotic zeal.  Indeed, in our yourmorals.org data, identification with your country (using a subscale of Sam McFarland&#8217;s Identification with All Humanity scale) is negatively correlated with liberal identification.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/patriotism_by_politics1.jpg" rel="lightbox[539]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-540" title="patriotism_by_politics1" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/patriotism_by_politics1.jpg" alt="" width="503" height="403" /></a></p>
<p>However, given that ingroup love and outgroup hate are not always correlated, and in this case, <a  href="http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1977/poll-osama-bin-laden-death-confidence-muslim-publics-al-qaeda-favorability">Bin Laden is not popular in the Arab world</a>, cases where ingroup love leads to outgroup hate are likely to be outliers.  Most people see it as love for their country, justice, and/or a blow for terrorists, not as a win in a larger battle against non-Americans.  <a href="http://www.polipsych.com/2011/05/02/osama-bin-ladens-death-is-a-chance-to-escape-zero-sum-thinking/">One could see it as a victory for the type of universalism that liberals desire, given that what Bin Laden wanted most was a competitive zero-sum conflict with the west</a>.  Indeed, patriotism itself has an empathic component to it, correlating with Empathic Concern (e.g. &#8220;I would describe myself as a pretty soft-hearted person&#8221;, Davis, 1983) scores (see below).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/patriotism_by_empathy6.jpg" rel="lightbox[539]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-541" title="patriotism_by_empathy6" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/patriotism_by_empathy6.jpg" alt="" width="503" height="403" /></a></p>
<p>I am generally liberal and have prototypically liberal angst about celebrating any death.  But in the case of the collective unity we are seeing, I think liberals should take yes for an answer to our universalist impulses and appreciate the resulting unity.  There are forces in the world (e.g. selfishness, competition, or threat) that cause us to restrict our circle of concern to ourselves and those immediately around us and there are forces in the world that cause us to expand our circle of concern and care.  I welcome the celebrations, because I&#8217;m hopeful this is a case of the latter.</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>
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		<title>Liberals place more value on being funny than conservatives and libertarians.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ravi Iyer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I've been watching a lot of comedy central lately and have been wondering why there does not appear to be a conservative equivalent, just as there is no popular liberal equivalent to conservative AM talk radio.  Perhaps liberals value being funny more than conservatives?
To test this idea, I thought I'd look at the data from [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been watching a lot of comedy central lately and have been wondering why there does not appear to be a conservative equivalent, just as there is no popular liberal equivalent to conservative AM talk radio.  Perhaps liberals value being funny more than conservatives?</p>
<p>To test this idea, I thought I&#8217;d look at the data from the Good Self Scale from yourmorals.org.  In it, participants are asked how important it is to have various traits, and one of them happens to be &#8220;funny&#8221;.  If you look at the below graph, you&#8217;ll see that liberals do indeed place a tiny bit more value on being funny, compared to others (p&lt;.01 comparing liberals to non-liberals).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/goodself_by_politics1.jpg" rel="lightbox[531]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-532" title="libertarian_liberal_conservative_traits_values" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/goodself_by_politics1.jpg" alt="" width="505" height="405" /></a></p>
<p>It is important to note that this does not mean that liberals are indeed funnier, but rather that they place a value on being funny.  The results seem plausible given that the rest of the results conform to previous research (e.g. <a  href="http://faculty.virginia.edu/haidtlab/mft/GHN.final.JPSP.2008.12.09.pdf">conservatives care about loyalty more</a> and <a  href="http://www.psych.nyu.edu/jost/Carney,%20Jost,%20&amp;%20Gosling%20(2008)%20The%20secret%20lives%20of%20liberals%20.pdf">care about being more responsible</a>).  Some observations:</p>
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<li>All groups are above the midpoint (2.5) of the scale for all traits, except for libertarians and their valuation of being generous, outgoing, and sympathetic.  Instead, libertarians score high on being intellectual and logical.</li>
<li>Moderates actually score highest in terms of valuing fairness and honesty.  A very interesting finding.</li>
<li>Liberals, in addition to wanting to be funny, also want to be creative, kind, sympathetic, and almost as intellectual as libertarians.</li>
<li>Conservatives value being responsible, loyal, and honest (comparable to moderates for honesty).</li>
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<p>In all, these are fair descriptions of these ideological groups, and given that the other relationships are reasonable, I would conclude that it&#8217;s also reasonable to say that liberals likely do place more value on being funny than other ideological groups.  Whether they succeed or not is another question.</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>
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